Just a Dog Podcast · Episode 29 · June 4, 2026 · 52 min

The invisible extreme | Why the border collie is an extreme breed too | Ellen Greenwood-Sole | The Urban Herder

A border collie can track a sheep across a field from the smallest flick of movement. Drop that same dog on a busy street, and the skill that makes them brilliant is the one that comes undone. Ellen Greenwood-Sole, founder of The Urban Herder, has spent more than 10 years working with collies and the people who love them. She makes a case most of us miss. A collie's intensity is not a personality; it is an extreme we bred on purpose, the behavioural version of a flat face. We just call it clever and leave it at that. We get into why so much reactivity is really pain, why teaching a dog to switch off matters more than another walk, and why the kindest move is sometimes grieving the dog you pictured so you can meet the one you have.