The Side Hustle Podcast with Fexingo: Part-Time Businesses, Passion Projects, and Extra Income · Episode 97 · July 6, 2026 · 10 min

How a Side Hustler Makes 4500 Monthly as a Freelance Kitchen Remodel Designer

In this episode of The Side Hustle Podcast, Lucas and Luna explore the freelance kitchen remodel design niche. They break down how one side hustler, a former interior design assistant, transitioned to offering kitchen layout and material selection services on Upwork and Houzz. With just a few hundred dollars in software (SketchUp and AutoCAD), she now earns $4,500 per month working 15 hours a week. Lucas shares the math: her average project fee is $1,200, and she lands 3-4 clients monthly by targeting homeowners doing small remodels. Luna chimes in on the importance of before-and-after portfolios and how the side hustler leverages Pinterest for lead gen. They discuss pricing strategies, common pitfalls (like underestimating permit requirements), and how to scale. No experience in construction required — just an eye for space planning and a willingness to learn building codes. A practical look at a lucrative niche that blends creativity with client management. #SideHustle #Freelance #KitchenDesign #Remodel #InteriorDesign #SketchUp #AutoCAD #Upwork #Houzz #PinterestMarketing #Business #FexingoBusiness #BusinessPodcast #ExtraIncome #PassionProject #HomeRenovation #DesignFreelance #PartTimeBusiness Keep every episode free: buymeacoffee.com/fexingo

Transcript

Lucas: So you walk into a kitchen that hasn't been touched since 1982. Linoleum floors, oak cabinets, a peninsula that makes the whole room feel like a corridor. The homeowner wants it opened up, but they don't have ten thousand dollars for an architect. That gap — between what people want and what they can afford — is exactly where a side hustle lives. Luna: You're talking about the person who designs the kitchen but doesn't swing a hammer. Lucas: Exactly. A freelance kitchen remodel designer. No license required, no general contractor bond. Just a good eye, some software, and the ability to talk to clients about cabinet depths and traffic flow. Today's case is a woman named Rachel. She was an interior design assistant at a firm in Portland, got laid off in 2024, and started offering kitchen layout services on Upwork and Houzz Pro. Luna: And she didn't need a whole new degree for this. Lucas: Not at all. She already had the design vocabulary. What she needed was to learn SketchUp and AutoCAD — which she did through YouTube and a $40 Udemy course. Total software investment: about $300 a year for licenses. Within six months, she was averaging $4,500 a month, working about fifteen hours a week. Luna: Wait — fifteen hours? That's barely part-time. Lucas: That's the beauty of this niche. A kitchen remodel design project isn't a full-time job. You do an initial consultation, measure the space or work from photos, create two or three layout options, then a final plan with cabinet specifications and material recommendations. She charges a flat fee of $1,200 per project. The average client takes about five hours of her time spread over two weeks. So she can take three or four clients a month and hit that $4,500 number without burning out. Luna: I assume she had to build a portfolio before anyone hired her. Lucas: She did something clever. She found a non-profit that renovates homes for low-income families and offered to design their kitchens for free. Three projects, lots of photos, and she had a portfolio that showed she could handle real constraints — small budgets, odd-shaped rooms, load-bearing walls. Then she put those on Houzz and started bidding on Upwork jobs with very specific proposals. Luna: What kind of specific? Like, 'I see your kitchen is 10 by 12, here's an idea'? Lucas: Exactly. She wouldn't just say 'I'm a designer, hire me.' She'd look at the photos the client posted, identify one pain point — like the refrigerator door hitting the island — and sketch a quick solution. That alone got her a 40 percent response rate. Most freelancers send generic pitches. Luna: So the skill isn't just design, it's also reading a room — literally. Lucas: Right. And there's a specific knowledge gap she filled: building codes. Most homeowners don't know that you need a certain clearance around a stove, or that your electrical outlets have to be on a dedicated circuit. Rachel invested a weekend in reading the International Residential Code for kitchens. Now she can tell a client, 'That peninsula you want? It'll need a support post unless we move the ductwork.' That saves them from getting a permit rejection, and it makes her indispensable. Luna: That's the kind of expertise that justifies a $1,200 fee. Lucas: Exactly. Now, where does she find clients? Upwork and Houzz are the main channels, but she also uses Pinterest strategically. She creates boards for each style — modern farmhouse, mid-century, industrial — and pins her own renderings. When people search 'small kitchen layout ideas' they find her pins. That generates leads without her having to actively market. Luna: I've heard that Pinterest can be better than Instagram for service businesses because people are actively planning. Lucas: Exactly. They're not just scrolling; they're looking for solutions. One of her best clients came from a pin titled 'How to fit a dishwasher in a 8x10 kitchen.' The pin linked to her Houzz profile. That one project led to three referrals. Luna: And she's not doing the actual construction, so no liability for mistakes? Lucas: That's the key. She provides a detailed plan, but the homeowner hires their own contractor. Her contract says she's not responsible for installation errors. She does, however, offer a one-hour virtual consultation with the contractor to go over the plans. That's included in the fee. It prevents the 'your design doesn't work' complaint. Luna: Smart. So if someone wanted to start this next week, what would they need besides software? Lucas: A few things. First, get a laser distance measurer — about $50 on Amazon. You can do remote measurements if the client sends you dimensions, but it's better to go in person when possible. Second, learn cabinet line names. Ikea's SEKTION system is the most common in budget remodels. Knowing that a SEKTION base cabinet is 24 inches deep and 30 inches wide lets you design quickly. Third, understand the standard appliance sizes: 30-inch range, 36-inch refrigerator, 24-inch dishwasher. If you don't know those, you'll design a kitchen where nothing fits. Luna: And what about pricing? Is $1,200 standard? Lucas: It varies by region and complexity. In a high-cost area like San Francisco, some designers charge $2,500 for a full plan. But Rachel found that $1,200 was the sweet spot for the national market. She can do the work in 15 hours, which is $80 an hour. That's great for a side hustle. She's now thinking of raising her rate to $1,500. Luna: I wonder if she ever gets clients who try to negotiate. Lucas: She does. Her strategy is to hold firm but offer a discount for a testimonial and a recorded video of the reveal. That gives her content for Houzz and Pinterest. So she doesn't lose revenue — she trades a few hundred dollars for marketing assets that bring in more clients. Luna: That's a smart trade-off. Lucas: And speaking of trade-offs — this is a good moment to mention something. We keep this show ad-free because we want the advice to be straight, no sponsored nonsense. A couple of dollars a month from listeners is genuinely what keeps these episodes coming. If you've gotten a useful idea from this — even just one — you can support the show at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. It's a small way to say these conversations matter. Luna: Yeah, and it really does make a difference. We hear from people who say an episode like this helped them start something new. That's the whole point. Lucas: Back to kitchen design — one challenge Rachel faced early on was clients who wanted overly complex designs. Like, 'I want a butler's pantry and a coffee station and an island with a sink.' In a 10x10 kitchen, that's physically impossible. She learned to set expectations upfront with a 'what's realistic' checklist. Luna: So she educates rather than just saying no. Lucas: Exactly. She sends them a PDF with minimum aisle widths, clearance zones, and typical dimensions. That way, when she says 'you can't fit an island in a 9-foot-wide room,' it's not her opinion — it's a code requirement. Clients trust that. Luna: What's the hardest part of the business for her? Lucas: Managing revisions. Some clients change their minds three or four times. She includes two rounds of revisions in the fee, and then charges $100 per additional round. That keeps people focused. She also always gets a deposit — 50 percent upfront — so she's not chasing payment after delivery. Luna: And she's doing all this from home, no studio space? Lucas: Yeah, she works from her dining table. The only physical thing she needs is a good monitor for CAD work. She has a 27-inch screen. That's it. No inventory, no employees, no insurance beyond a basic liability policy for $300 a year. Luna: So the barrier to entry is pretty low. Lucas: Very low. The biggest hurdle is confidence — believing you can sell a design service without a degree in architecture. But if you've ever rearranged furniture in a room and thought about traffic flow, you have the baseline skill. The rest is learning the tools and the code rules. Luna: I'm curious about the long-term potential. Could this become a full-time income? Lucas: Absolutely. Rachel's next step is to hire a virtual assistant to handle initial client calls and measurement data entry. That would free her up to take on eight clients a month, which at $1,200 each is over $9,000. She could then specialize in a sub-niche, like universal design for aging in place — wider doorways, lower counters — which commands higher fees. Luna: That's a great point. Specializing could also reduce competition. Lucas: Exactly. The general kitchen design market on Upwork is crowded, but 'kitchen design for wheelchair accessibility' has almost no competition. Rachel hasn't gone that route yet, but she knows it's an option. Luna: So for someone listening, the takeaway is: if you have an eye for space and can learn SketchUp, there's a real side hustle here. Lucas: And it pays better per hour than most virtual assistant work or data entry. Plus, you get the satisfaction of seeing a before and after photo that you helped create. That's a pretty good feeling. Luna: I can imagine. Any final piece of advice for someone starting today? Lucas: Start with one free project — a friend's kitchen, a neighbor's, a non-profit. Create a portfolio of three designs. Then put them on Houzz and Pinterest. And when you bid on your first Upwork job, don't copy-paste. Look at their photo and offer one specific idea. That single sentence can land you the gig. Luna: Good advice. And if they need more inspiration, they can always check out Rachel's portfolio — we'll link it in the show notes. Lucas: We will. Until next time, keep building.