The Drop

A running podcast from Believe in the Run, The Drop is brought to you by hosts Thomas Neuberger, Robbe…

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About The Drop

A running podcast from Believe in the Run, The Drop is brought to you by hosts Thomas Neuberger, Robbe Reddinger, and Meaghan Murray. But this isn't your typical running podcast– we'll talk about running (of course), but also discuss a wide range of topics, from pop culture to pigeons (not real) to picking up trash here in Baltimore. We also interview elite athletes, industry insiders, musicians, coaches, and more. Follow along as we also discuss our own running highs and lows, as well as our favorite shoes and gear.

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Nov 13, 2026 · 1 hr 28 min

491 | Baltimore Bandits, Broken Bones, 361 Degrees Drops a Stunner

Meg catch a flat in her Alphafly 4, Thomas almost catches a real-life stray, Robbe catches an emergency room bill, and 361 Degrees catches fire with a shoe that could be a contender for shoe of the year: the Mega 3 Pro. Also, how is there not a Nerds Gummy Cluster flavor of Gu?? It's 2026, come on. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! SAYSKY Our newest sponsor, Saysky, has been making technical running gear out of Copenhagen…
Nov 11, 2026 · 1 hr 58 min

E054 | The Dirt Division - Trail Shoe Trends in 2026, Wipeouts, and the NNormal Cadi (ft. Seth LaReau, Trail Waves)

The Dirt Division highlights a handful of trends in trail running footwear this year and gives their opinions on whether they love it or could do without it. Along the way, they do a little bit of forecasting, talk about a wide range of options, and end with a little bit of nonsense.... naturally. GUEST: Seth LaReau is the writer behind the Trail Waves Substack. He approaches the trail space with a unique…
Nov 9, 2026 · 32 min

We Interviewed Timm Chiusano | 490

We sat down with Timm Chiusano at the New Balance Run House to talk about his new book, How to Get Addicted to Appreciation. Timm spent 25 years in corporate America, then found an audience making "growing up less scary" on TikTok, and his wife tricked him into his first marathon. We cover burnout, Rolling Stone, the run that taught him "this is just a phase," and his plan to hand out 26.2 copies of the book during…
Nov 6, 2026 · 1 hr 42 min

489 | NYC Marathon Recap, N.O.R.E. Is a Type 2 Runner, Overplayed New York Songs

We're back from NYC Marathon weekend, and it might've been our best one yet. Thomas and Aubrey ran it just for fun and got hyped up along the way by an NYPD officer and N.O.R.E. himself, while the Megs ran the course backwards and watched Jess McClain sprint into second. We also recap the New Balance Run House and our shakeout run (and the line around the block), and settle which New York song is the most…
Nov 4, 2026 · 1 hr 30 min

The Dirt Division E053 | Toenails, Javelina, Iteration, More Obsessions, and Doppelgangers

The Dirt Division wasn't done sharing some of their favorite items and ideas in the trail running space last week which includes books, gear, skincare, and footwear. They all share more while finding time to comment on each other's feet, habits, and relational quirks. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Lagoon: Sleep is one of the most underrated training components. We've been fans of Lagoon for years and use their custom…

Earlier episodes (195)

Oct 30, 2026 488 | Nike After Dark Tour, Another Star in the Dope Show, Passing Torches
Nike adopted the dark, but Meg was born in it, molded by it. She gives her report from the Los Angeles edition of the women-centric event. Elsewhere in the country, Thomas sustains an injury in South Carolina while Robbe's son beats him badly in a 5K back in Maryland. Trick or treat, indeed.Join us at our New Balance x BITR shakeout run before the New York City Marathon!📅 WHEN: Saturday, October 31 at 8AM📍 WHERE:…
Oct 28, 2026 The Dirt Division E052 | Obsessed October, Ghosts, and Germs
Ghosts and germs and goods, oh my! This episode takes a spooky turn really quick. Alex started by asking a few questions about hygiene which was, apparently, a metaphysical vortex that led the Dirt Division to a deep discussion on hauntings, residual energy, and symbolic animals. They eventually end with what running related ideas or items they are obsessed with.
Oct 26, 2026 487 | Jon Tappan and Jared Carver (Tracksmith)
In this episode, Meg and Thomas sit down with Tracksmith CEO Jared Carver and Chief Product & Merchandising Officer Jon Tappan to discuss the brand's future. The group explores Jon and Jared's transition from Converse to a performance running brand and how Tracksmith plans to balance its classic New England heritage with modern sportswear trends. They also discuss future retail expansion, navigating…
Oct 23, 2026 486 | Baltimore Running Festival
The gang recaps a chaotic but beautiful fall weekend at the Baltimore Running Festival, diving into odd race logistics and the unofficial (but definitely official) controversy over Under Armour's past involvement in the race. They also take a look at the surprisingly lucrative market of selling Boston Marathon medals on eBay, preview the Nike After Dark Half Marathon, and wrap up with conversations about AI, 80s…
Oct 21, 2026 The Dirt Division E051 | Where the Water Was, Potty Talk, and Altra Olympus 275 Hilo (ft. Rob Gasbarro Outdoor 76)
Alex returned from a week-long trek with Nnormal. She recaps the Where the Water Was project with both the challenges and triumphs. Then, the conversation takes a turn as the crew talks about bathtroom etiquite (both indoor and outdoors. The crew then finishes with their thoughts on the Altra Olypmus 275 HIlo and Olympus 7. Guest: Rob Gasbarro is a partner/co-owner of Outdoor 76, a shop in Franklin, North Carolina.…
Oct 16, 2026 485 | Chicago Marathon Weekend
The gang gets back from Chicago, where we had a ton of fun with On at our Navy Pier shakeout run before spectating the race on Sunday morning. We had some incredible performances from Clayton Young and Vinny Mauri and so many more. Plus, we get some insider info on the whole ultrarunner to OF pipeline. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LAGOON PILLOWS Sleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position…
Oct 14, 2026 The Dirt Division E050 | Developing Running Shoes, Misadventures, Nnormal Kjerag 2.0
While Alex is out running around the Great Salt Lake, Taylor and Johnny get all nerdy by discussing pretty much every single detail of a running shoe and its importance to performance. They discuss the key differences between trail and road shoe development. Prior to that, they also talk about their weeks and misadventures they experienced.
Oct 12, 2026 Charlie Sweeney, 2:09 Marathoner | 484
Charlie Sweeney was the first American across the line at the 2026 Berlin Marathon, running 2:09. Thomas and Meg talk with him about the race, switching coaches after Boston, his race-day fueling and his road from Maryland high school football to CU Boulder. He also works at COROS, so if you've ever DM'd them, you've probably talked to Charlie. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:50 COROS athlete or COROS employee? 3:55…
Oct 9, 2026 483 | Asics Gel Slowcush, Nike Apex, Taco Bell 50K
Russia has a plague problem, New York has a cheer zone problem, and Thomas apparently has no problem eating his way through ten Taco Bells in 11 hours. This week Thomas, Meg, Robbe and Karl get into NYRR’s new rules for run club cheer zones (RIP confetti cannons), the run club that cleared $640K in a year, Altra’s Legacy Team of runners aged 75 to 85, and Skechers’ new Aero Elite race shoe (machine washable,…
Oct 7, 2026 The Dirt Division E049 | Trail Racing Shoes, Seasons Changingft. Dakota Jones and Brianna Corremonte
Johnny and Alex help Taylor sort out his thoughts and decisions after a successful trail season. Does he push forward with more racing or does he settle in for winter to work on goals for next year? Then, they chat about the new Veja Harpie, a simple trail shoe with a sustainable focus. Of course, there’s a mix of story telling and nonsense in the mix too.Guest: Dakota and Brianna prepare for two monumental tasks:…
Oct 2, 2026 482 | Berlin Marathon & Adidas HQ Recap
Thomas and Karl went big in Berlin, running a marathon around the city on a warm race morning. Before that, they swung by the Adidas HQ to look at some wild innovations and cutting edge technologies coming from the brand. Also, they led hundreds of runners through a shakeout run on Saturday, the biggest event on race weekend outside of the marathon. Needless to say, it was busy. Needless to say, they are tired. But…
Sep 30, 2026 The Dirt Division E048 | Inov8 Trailfly Pro ft. Dirt Division Reviewer Johnny Dodgin
Alex and Taylor are joined by long time friend of the show and now Dirt Division reviewer, Johnny Dodgin! He has an extensive background in endurance sport, marketing, product development, and art that make him a prime example of a gear nerd. Among many other topics, they discuss the Inov8 Trailfly Pro that Johnny had a major role in bringing to life.
Sep 25, 2026 481 | Nike Alphafly 4, Adidas Adios Pro 5, Guardian Caps
We have some big shoes in today to talk about (with a couple of side quests on the NFL's guardian caps and Instagram Plus). In today's episode, the Nike Alphafly 4 and Adidas Adios Pro 5 take the stage. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT Fall marathon training is in full swing, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing, all LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg…
Sep 23, 2026 The Dirt Division E047 | Running Belts, Social Avoidance, Kiprun Kipsummit Race (ft. Tina Muir)
Running belts have taken a huge lap in performance over the last few years. Taylor and Alex give a rundown on which ones they like, the different offerings, and why you just might want to grab a belt over a pack. They also chat about a suprise race day shoe, the Kiprun Kipsummit Race. Guest: Tina Muir is an athlete and environtmental advocated in the running space. She wears a lot more hats than that, even! Tina…
Sep 21, 2026 480 | Ben Morrow and Bit Klecker (Miler Running)
Thomas sat down with the folks at Miler (Ben Morrow and Bit Klecker) to talk life, business, and their latest venture: the Metropolitan Trail Racing team. The team made their debut this past weekend at Grindstone by UTMB, and it was a strong showing right out of the gate. In the 21K, Bit Klecker took first for the women, Grant finished 2nd and Drew 7th on the men's side, and in the 50K Ben crossed in 22nd while…
Sep 18, 2026 479 | Mud Pies, We Are Scientists, Wading Water and Surfing Clouds
We're no hybrid rockstars, but then again we've never left a mud pie on course. We're also not scientists, or are we? Who knows. We discuss way too many topics on this episode of The Drop, ranging from mishaps to ultrarunning camming to brand new updates to the Believe in the Run website. Also, we cover the all-new On Cloudsurfer 3. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LAGOON PILLOWS Sleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built…
Sep 16, 2026 The Dirt Division E046 | Pandaprank Orbis, Coaching, Midwest Things (ft. Meg Eckert)
Alex and Taylor talk this week about coaching and some things to consider whether you're on the hunt for one or not. First, Alex tests Taylor to see if he is a true midwesterner. They end with a chat about a brand new trail shoe, the Pandarprank Orbis. Guest: Meg Eckhert just broke the world record for distance covered over 6 days! The Mount to Coast athlete, teacher, and wife gives us some insight on her…
Sep 11, 2026 478 | Sydney Marathon and the Sickness
Meg just picked up her 7th major marathon in Sydney, but it came with a side of sickness that almost left her in Los Angeles. She's mostly back to normal, enough to recap her journey to the other side of the Earth. We cover that, as well as the Asics Sonicblast 2 Sunrise Edition. Thanks to Asics for the support over the past couple weeks, and to everyone that said hello from down under. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT…
Sep 9, 2026 The Dirt Division E045 | Adidas Terrex Agravic Speed Ultra Evo, UTMB, and more
Buckle up for all the rabbit holes. Taylor and Alex recap the last couple weeks of trail madness including UTMB, family vacations, bike mishaps, and gear they have been enjoying. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Lagoon: Sleep is one of the most underrated training components. We've been fans of Lagoon for years and use their custom pillows nightly to support a great night of sleep and, of course, our running. Go to…
Sep 4, 2026 477 | UTMB Recap, The Speed Project (Chamonix), Neighborhood Cleanup
Thomas and Karl are back from Chamonix while Meg is somewhere in the skies above the Pacific. They recap the full UTMB experience, from hot dogs to haute couture in the French Alps. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LAGOON PILLOWS Sleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up recovered and ready to run. We use them every night and you should too. Find your perfect pillow…
Aug 31, 2026 476 | Alex Arslan, Hylo Athletics
Thomas and Meg interview Alex Arslan of Hylo Athletics to discuss his upbringing in the footwear industry and the new daily trainer from Hylo Athletics, the Impact 2.
Aug 28, 2026 475 | Live from Chamonix, MCC Recap
Thomas, Taylor, and Karl come to you from the Alpina Hotel in the heart of Chamonix during UTMB week with Hoka. Thomas and Taylor recap their epic race at MCC. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT Fall marathon training is in full swing, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing, all LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium. And if you're an insider, you can…
Aug 26, 2026 The Dirt Division E044 | UTMB, Leadville, Norda 000 (ft. Hans Troyer)
August is THE month of trail running. Many of the most prolific races happen during this time and it is prime peak bagging season. Taylor and Alex talk about UTMB, Leadville, and an the new Norda x Black Diamond collaboration which includes the Norda 000. Guest: Hans Troyer is a Hoka athlete who has gained a large following through amazing performances but mostly because of his genuine likeable character. They chat…
Aug 21, 2026 474 | Nike Pegasus Plus 2, Falmouth Recap, Ramen and Hot Dogs
The Megs ran the Falmouth Road Race with Asics while Thomas tapped into his culinary side with some hot dog ramen (sounds delicious). We also dive into the Nike Pegasus Plus 2, which features an all new Air Zoom unit in the forefoot. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LAGOON PILLOWS Sleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up recovered and ready to run. We use them every…
Aug 19, 2026 The Dirt Division E043 | Mount to Coast M1, Strava, and E-Bikes (ft. Jared Smith, Hoka PLM)
Taylor and Alex dig into multiple topics this week including their personal tendencies when it comes to Strava, thoughts on E-bikes, and wrap up with a conversation about the new Mount to Coast M1. Guest: Jared Smith is Hoka's Senior Product Line Manager. He and Taylor talk about his history with Hoka, the current "technical" terrain lineup that includes the upcoming Tecton X 4, plus insight about the return of the…
Aug 14, 2026 473 | Most Overrated and Underrated Running Shoes of 2026 (So Far), Blood Doping, It's It Ice Cream
We don't have a shoe to highlight this week, so we thought we'd give you our picks for the most overrated and underrated running shoes of 2026 (so far). Meg also gives her top 5 picks for race day shoes, which may surprise you. We also discuss the latest blood doping scandal in running and Thomas proposes a novel idea to catch them if you can. Plus- shout-out to It's-It ice cream sandwiches for giving Thomas core…
Aug 12, 2026 The Dirt Division E042 | Merrell, Beast of Big Creek, & Coffee
Long time trail reviewer, Sam Edgin, joins Alex and Taylor this week to talk about his experience at The Beast of Big Creek with Merrell...after they talk about coffee that is. Sam gives insight on the event, beta on an upcoming 2027 Merrell trail shoe, and much more.Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a nutrition brand the leverages natural ingredients…
Aug 7, 2026 472 | Hoka Tecton X 4, Summer GRIT Recap With Ranch Dressing
Turns out that Thomas doesn't like ranch dressing, which would get you excommunicated from Guy Fieri's cruise line in a matter of minutes. No worries, you can head over to Estes Park and hang with him and Taylor as they take on the trails in the upcoming Hoka Tecton X 4, improved in all the right places over the last version. Congrats again to all our Summer GRIT participants, and to the winner Connor Bessell who…
Aug 5, 2026 The Dirt Division E041 | Budget Trail Running Kit, Hoka Tecton X 4, Believe Basecamp
This week, Alex posed a challenge to pick out a budget-friendly trail running kit. They give insight on how to shop, things to look for, etc. Outside of that conversation they talk about about a special Rocky Mountain mission for Taylor and Thomas as well as the upcoming Hoka Tecton X 4. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a…
Aug 3, 2026 471 | Josh Kerr (Re-Release)
We watched Josh break the world-record last month, and we went back and listed to our original conversation with him back in 2023. It's worth a re-release. We hope you enjoy. From the original episode: He won the 5th Avenue Mile two weeks after he took down Jakob Ingebrigtsen on the sport's biggest stage, outkicking him en route to a world title in the 1500m. And now he's a guest on the greatest…
Jul 31, 2026 470 | Hylo Impact 2, Obsession, Bring Back Buttons
Be careful what you wish for, or your girlfriend might love the Boston Marathon more than anything else in the whole world. In our case, we're already obsessed with running so we can't get any crazier. We recap GRIT standings before dipping into our experience driving an electric car and wishing we had knobs and buttons again. We also preview the Hylo Impact 2, a new version of the daily trainer offered…
Jul 29, 2026 The Dirt Division E040 | Obsessed July, Asics MetaFuji Trail 2 (ft. Dr. Jason Tso & Dr. Malene Lindholm)
Alex, Reese, and Taylor talk about what they are obsessed with in the month of July. Everything from minivans, to horses, to stack heights was fair game. They wrap up their conversations with early imperessions of the upcoming Asics Metafuji Trail 2. Guest: Reese chats with Dr. Jason Tso and Malene Lindholm who are conducting a study at Stanford that's focused on common genetic markers for endurance…
Jul 24, 2026 469 | New Balance SC Rebel v1, Thomas vs. the White Mountains, Kerr Goes Krazy
What a week for running as Josh Kerr does the unthinkable in breaking the mile world record. Thomas also does the unthinkable by attempting the Presidential Traverse in adverse conditions, but manages to make it out alive with some stories to tell. We also run down the New Balance SC Rebel v1, an all-new super trainer coming in August for $200. ASICS GRIT PARTY DETAILS What: 3-mile group run followed by after party…
Jul 22, 2026 The Dirt Division E039 | Brooks Cascadia 20, Trail Gear Trends, The Presi (ft. Sean Van Horn)
Western States and Hardrock are over. Hear the Dirt Division's thoughts on gear-related trends between the two events as well as trends in trail running gear in general this year. Alex and Taylor then talk about the Brooks Cascadia 20 and Taylor's wild ride in the White Mountains with Thomas and the Mount to Coast crew. Guest: Sean Van Horn is a mountain runner from Colorado who has experienced all ends of the…
Jul 20, 2026 468 | Blue Benadum - R.A.D
Thomas and Meg sit down with Blue Benadum from R.A.D to talk about their lineup as well as his extensive history in the business, starting with his days at Nike.
Jul 17, 2026 467 | Topo Athletic Specter Elite, Tracksmith Eliot Ryder
We got flooded houses, dead fish in the harbor, wildfires, and grit. And we say to ourselves, what a wonderful world. July is throwing a tempter tantrum but it's all been made easier with some fantastic shoes in the way of the Topo Athletic Specter Elite and the Tracksmith Eliot Ryder. We're also looking forward to the annual Summer GRIT party, which is happening next weekend here in Baltimore at Hampden Yards.…
Jul 15, 2026 The Dirt Division E038 | The North Face Offtrail Ultra, Recovery pt. 2 (ft. Tommie Runz)
Reese, Alex, and Taylor first lay out their thoughts on the upcoming North Face Offtrail Ultra. Then, they round out their conversation on recovery, which inevitablyturns macro before getting to some of the gear that they use regularly for it.Guest: Tommie Runz has become a well-known runner due to his inspiring story and "stay ready" attitude. Hear about his experience getting into trail running and how this led…
Jul 10, 2026 E466 | On Headquarters in Zurich, Western States Recap
The team has reassembled back in Baltimore, but it's been a whirlwind of the past two weeks as our running adventures took us everywhere from Western States 100 to the headquarters of On and Paris fashion week. We're tired but we're here, so that's gotta count for something. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LAGOON PILLOWS Sleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up…
Jul 8, 2026 The Dirt Division E037 | Norda 055, Recovery (ft. Arc'teryx Athletes Kyle Richardson and Jane Maus)
The Dirt Division trio first mulls over one of the most anticipated shoes of the year, the Norda 055. Then, they dive into a two part conversation about recovery. Guest: Jane Maus and Kyle Richardson are true mountain athletes. They talk to Taylor about their draw to such terrain, background that led them there, and what it means to be supported by Arc'teryx. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners…
Jul 6, 2026 E465 | Wei-En Chang, JANUARY Founder
Thomas speaks with Wei-En Chang, the founder of JANUARY, a rising running shoe brand. Their first model coming to market is the Signal, their daily trainer.
Jul 3, 2026 E464 | Instagram Q&A, The World Cup, Summer GRIT, The Norwegian Method
Thomas and Meg are en España this week, so Robbe, Karl, and Brady came off the bench to fill their boots. They talk through the World Cup, the Norwegian Method of producing athletes, and even touch on the exorbitant number of Oreo flavors. They answer some listener questions from Instagram and celebrate the beginning of GRIT to round it out.JOIN US FOR SUMMER GRITRegistration for Summer GRIT is right around the…
Jul 1, 2026 The Dirt Division E036 | Western States 2026 (ft. Kilian Jornet and Elhousine Elazzaoui)
Alex, Taylor, and Maria (Believe in the Run's VIP) just returned from Western States. Even though they are sleep deprived, they talk about their experience at Western States. Guest: Nnormal athletes Kilian Jornet and Elhousine Elazzaoui chat with Taylor about running in the USA, Nnormal's team, as well as a sneak peek of an upcoming Nnormal Prototype shoe that Kilian used during Western States. SUPPORT OUR…
Jun 26, 2026 E463 | Pre-Western States Weekend with Max Jolliffe
In the midst of a busy trail packed week with Broken Arrow, TrailCon, and Western States, Max Jolliffe stopped by the BITR Tahoe HQ to chat about the week so far, his upcoming race at Badwater 135, and dissecting a little bit more of the aftermath of the Satisfy Circle Pit. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT The temperatures are climbing up and up, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing,…
Jun 24, 2026 The Dirt Division E035 | The Great American Trailapalooza (ft. Aeres Reading)
It's that time of year again. Taylor headed out to what he is coining as, "The Great American Trailapalooza". He, Reese, and Alex talk about what happens during the ten day span of Broken Arrow Skyrace, Trailcon, and Western States. Taylor, also gives a first-hand account of his experience at Broken Arrow with Nike ACG. Then, Taylor talks to Aeres Reading, a trail racing young gun, who will be living,…
Jun 22, 2026 E462 | Drew Magaha - Mizuno Running
Thomas and Meaghan sit down with Drew Magaha, Product Manager for Mizuno USA, to talk through his running history and what the brand has in store. The gang have been running in Mizuno shoes this year that are getting green lights across the board, so keep an eye out!
Jun 19, 2026 E461 | Brooks Hyperion Elite 6, Topo Specter 3, Strava Sober, Western States and TrailCon
It's gonna be a busy next few weeks, so the crew locks in for an hour and a half of running talk (not really), before maybe wishing things were a little bit simpler at times. But hey, life is good becasue you're here with us. Summer is here and GRIT is coming up, so let's have some fun. We also cover our experiences in the really-fantastic Topo Athletic Specter 3 and Brooks' best race day shoe…
Jun 17, 2026 The Dirt Division E034 | Would You Rather (ft. Mason Coppi)
The Dirt Divison plays a game of would you rather with some questions that have a direct tie to running and some that clearly don’t. Guest: Mason Coppi has been quietly crushing on both the trails and occassionally the roads. Just in 2026 he became a USATF Trail Running Champion and qualified of the US Olympic Trials in the marathon. Taylor checks in with him as he recently signed as a Vibram athlete. SUPPORT OUR…
Jun 12, 2026 E460 | R.A.D Mallow, World Cup Experts, Baltimore 10 Miler Recap, Sweet Tea Brady
The World Cup is coming, so who better to talk about it than three runners who don't watch soccer? We do run, so we recap Meg's bloody experience at the Baltimore 10 Miler and Brady pissing iced tea at a 100 mile race in Ohio. We also cover the R.A.D. Mallow, another really great entry into the $150 running shoe range. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LAGOON PILLOWS Sleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around…
Jun 10, 2026 The Dirt Division E033 | Obsessed
This week the crew touches base on some gear and ideas that they are "obsessed" with. Their answers come with unsurprising range and do include some of their favorite pieces of gear right now. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a nutrition brand the leverages natural ingredients and research backed formulas to help athletes…
Jun 8, 2026 E459 | Emily Abbate - Host of Hurdle Podcast
Thomas chats with Emily Abbate, host of Hurdle podcast at the Spotify Studios in NYC.
Jun 5, 2026 E458 | Puma Deviate Pure Nitro, Air Fryers, Robot Massages, Puppetry
Carbon-plated super shoes or air fryers or robot leg massagers, it's hard to know which is a better invention. We talk about all of those this week, as well as the cult of puppetry and Meg's fairly fresh pair of New Balance SC Trainer v1. And then there's Puma's newest shoe, the Deviate Pure Nitro. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT Summer hydration has never been better, because Lemonade Ice Tea is finally here! Crisp and…
Jun 3, 2026 The Dirt Division E032 | Post Race (ft. Rachel Entrekin, Norda Athlete)
How do you feel after finishing a big race or objective? Listen in our The Dirt Division's glorified therapy session on how to deal with life after racing. They also discuss some of their favorites, suprises, and gear they are excited about so far in 2026. Guest: Rachel Entrekin won the Cocodona 250 outright which is just another major mliestone for her first full year as a professional runner. She is sponsored by…
Jun 1, 2026 E457| Charlie Rodman - Whiskey Connoisseur
We have a large library of shoes. Charlie has a large library of whiskey. He was kind enough to bring his collection to Baltimore, so on this episode of the podcast we hear Charlie's story while doing a live tasting. Things get..."melty".
May 29, 2026 E456 | Asics Novablast 6, Enhanced Games Lame, Lyrics and Liner Notes
Okay, Robbe is back and we're done talking about circle pits. But it's controversy season so we cover the Enhanced Games and everything that did or didn't go down with that. Plus, the Baltimore race that almost was (should we bring it back?) and a water conservation question that we need to be answered. Oh, also the Asics Novablast 6 is a pretty great shoe. JOIN US FOR SUMMER GRIT Registration for Summer GRIT is…
May 27, 2026 The Dirt Division E031 | Drop Bags
The Dirt Division trio chats about drop bags this week. Do you use them? What are necessary items? What can you do without? Prior to that, listeners requested Reese's take on Satisfy Circle Pit which, inevitably, dove into grander topics of life. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: SOAR Running: Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry…
May 22, 2026 E455 | Behind the Scenes: Adidas x SATISFY Circle Pit
Thomas and Taylor went to the now infamous Adidas x SATISFY Circle Pit. If you haven't heard of it, you were probably enjoying a long run and some time outside. While you were taking care of your physical and mental health, the Circle Pit took the internet by storm, brewing up some intense opinions. On this episode, Thomas talks through his experience, and the rest of the gang talk through what went wrong and what…
May 20, 2026 The Dirt Division E030 | Circle Pit
Taylor just returned from what was easily the most unique running experience of his life. He and Alex talk about what the Satisfy x Adidas Circle Pit (think running meets backyard bowl jam meets metal concert) was all about, what it was like to be there, and even the ongoing conversations about the event. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: SOAR Running: Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to…
May 18, 2026 E454 | Sharon Lokedi - Professional Runner for UA, Olympian, 2x Boston Champion
Meg and Thomas sit down with Sharon Lokedi at Under Armour's HQ to talk about her recent Boston win, borrowing someone's watch, enjoying downtime and extra sleep, and a whole lot more.
May 15, 2026 E453 | Cocodona Analysis, Citius Mag Hotline, Kevin Hart Roast, Street Fights
Some amazing things went down at Cocodona, so we cover those from the road runners perspective, before diving into a wide ranging conversation regarding Sara Hall's new book (as well as other books), roasts of comedians and runners, and getting pepper sprayed in the face in Deep Ellum. Plus, more details on Summer GRIT and our contest to join us at Western States with Hoka. JOIN US AT WESTERN STATES! Believe in the…
May 13, 2026 The Dirt Division E029 | Cocodona pt 2 (ft. Adam Copeland, Tantrums Founder)
Description: The trio talks about Cocodona. This time, it is after Alex has finished the race in under 100 hours! She gives us insight on her adventure as she is still processing the whole experience.Guest: Adam Copeland is the founder of Tantrums, a pack company that disrupted our favorite gear lists list year. While their flagship design, the Crest 6, still holds as one of the highest performing packs, there are…
May 8, 2026 E452 | Brooks Hyperion Max 4, Spirit (Not) In The Sky, Cocodona Calling
It's been an unruly ride, but it's time to say bon voyage to Spirit Airlines. While we're mourning that, we still found time to run in the Brooks Hyperion Max 4 and Ghost Max 4. Still, not nearly enough miles as our trail reviewer Alex, who is currently at mile 211 at the Cocodona 250 (at the time we're writing this). We talk about all that and more in this week's edition of The Drop. Join us at Western States,…
May 6, 2026 The Dirt Division E028 | Cocodona (ft. Brandon Crouch, Salomon)
Description: Alex took on the challenge of Cocodona 250. Yes, a 250 mile race across the Arizona desert. She talks with Taylor and Reese who have some concerns and questions on motivation, tactics, and gear. Guest: Brandon Crouche is the Product Merchandiser for Salomon North American. Taylor and Brandon talk about his career at Salomon, the development of the GRVL product, and how it all fits into the broader…
May 4, 2026 E451 | Dave Hashim - Professional Photographer
Thomas sits down with Dave Hashim, professional photographer, runner, and friend of the podcast. To see Dave's work, you can find him on Instagram at @dhash.
May 1, 2026 E450 | A Historic Day at the London Marathon
On Sunday, the sport of running and the art of marathoning was forever changed as Sebastian Sawe ran the first-ever official sub-2-hour marathon. He wasn't the only one to do it, of course, and they both ran in the Adidas Adizero Adios Pro Evo 3, the lightest race day shoe ever at 99 grams. We give our thoughts on the race and the past and future of footwear, as well as plenty of other running (and non-running…
Apr 29, 2026 The Dirt Division E027 | Canyons 100K by UTMB
Alex and Taylor girll Reese after her first 100k finish! Reese just ran the Canyons 100k by UTMB, one of the most competitive races in North America. They talk travel, race strategies, and of course gear.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS:Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total…
Apr 24, 2026 E449 | 130th Boston Marathon Weekend Recap
One if by land, two if by sea, twenty-six-point-two if by running from Hopkinton to Boston. We had a full weekend of activities from our Mount to Coast movie night to the Boston 5K to the New Balance Team Relay to the massive Adidas x Heartbreak Hill shakeout run. Also, a race on Monday as Meg went hard on the hills for the 130th edition of the Boston Marathon. We recap it all in this episode, so thank you to…
Apr 22, 2026 The Dirt Division E026 | Heat pt 1 (ft. Andrew Bumbalough)
Alex, Reese, and Taylor sit down for a multi-session chat about heat. It effects us all differently and there are ways to combat it and prepare your body for the demands of running when it's hot. Guest: Andrew Bumbalough is the Product Line Manager for Nike ACG. He sets a few things straight for the sub-brand and talks about their current and future investment into the trail running and outdoor space. SUPPORT OUR…
Apr 20, 2026 448 | Andy Murray, Tennis Legend, Hylo Ambassador
Thomas and Meg sit down to talk to Andy Murray, who has just a few accolades: three Grand Slam titles, two Olympic singles gold medals, and world no. 1 in 2016. Need we say more? In addition to his illustrious career, Andy is an ambassador and investor in Hylo. Learn more about the brand by visiting https://hyloathletics.com/
Apr 17, 2026 447 | Boston Marathon Weekend Preview, Marathon Des Sables
The 130th edition of the Boston Marathon is upon us and it's shaping up to be a picture perfect day for racing. But before that, we have plenty of activities, so join us for a weekend of fun, whether you're racing or not. We cover all that before diving into the Marathon Des Sables across the Sahara Desert, as Desert Des Linden goes on another side quest and takes third place OA. If you're running on Monday, good…
Apr 15, 2026 The Dirt Division E025 | Nike ACG & Gorge, Adidas Terrex & Lake Sonoma
Taylor, Alex, and Renee (Midwest reviewer) discuss two of the biggest spring trail events in the US and the brands that support them. Renee was at Lake Sonoma with Adidas Terrex while Taylor was further north at Gorge Waterfalls with Nike ACG. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month…
Apr 10, 2026 446 | Hoka Skyward X 2, Always Sunny Artemis, Max Jolliffe and Perez Hilton
This episode is brought to you by sharks in hurricanes and mythical creatures like Artemis from Always Sunny, Kegasus, and He-man, plus a full preview of all our Boston events. We also talk about the overhaul of the marathon at World Athletics Championships, the new Andy Murray sponsorship with Hylo, and the current life status of Perez Hilton (since that's what everyone was wondering). Check out all our events at…
Apr 8, 2026 The Dirt Division E024 | Reunited (ft. Floris Gierman co-founder of Path Projects)
Alex, Taylor, and Reese reconnect after a few weeks of travel. They chat about their most recent adventures and what they are looking forward to this spring, including races for each of them.Guest: Floris Gierman is the cofounder of Path Projects, a running brand focused on high-quality function. Hear about his most recent adventure with the Believe in the Run crew in the Canyon, past life in the skateboard…
Apr 6, 2026 445 | Charlotte Heidmann, Category Director ADIZERO - Running Footwear
This week, Thomas sits down with Charlotte Heidmann, the absolute boss of the Adizero line over at Adidas. If you’ve been mind-blown by the Evo Pro 1, Prime X, or the runaway hit Evo SL over the last few years, this episode is a goldmine. We dive deep into the pressure of shaking up the super-shoe industry, how the innovation team operates, and what it’s like to receive unfiltered feedback from pinnacle athletes…
Apr 3, 2026 444 | Mount to Coast H1 Grand Canyon Ultra
This week, Thomas and Karl drop into the Grand Canyon with Mount to Coast to celebrate the massive release of the BITR x Mount to Coast H1 collab shoe. To properly break in the new drop, the guys tackle a brutal ultra down in the canyon alongside an absolute powerhouse crew featuring American marathon legend Ryan Hall and Path Projects founder Floris Gierman. Joined by Doug, Lin, Spencer, Matt, and Taylor, it's a…
Apr 1, 2026 The Dirt Division E023 | Mount to Coast x BITR Grand Canyon Ultra
The Grand Canyon is known as one of the Seven Wonders of the World. We visited and can confirm that this is truly a special place. Hear from Dirt Division reviewers Matt and Taylor about their day in the canyon celebrating the launch of the Mount to Coast BITR H1. They chat about the experience, gear, and people that made the adventure.
Mar 27, 2026 443 | Mount to Coast C1, Clayton Young to Brooks, Gen Z Trends
This week, we dive into the fascinating trend of Gen Z ditching alcohol and break down the big sponsor news of Clayton Young's move to Brooks. On the running front, it was a massive week for American records: Emma Grace Hurley officially beat Deena Kastor's 21-year-old 8K mark. Later in the show, we get into some shoe talk with the Mount to Coast C1 and 361 Miro Nude 2. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSSOAR Only for Drop…
Mar 25, 2026 The Dirt Division E022 | Big Alta, Moab, Salomon Aero Glide GRVL 4 (ft. Grayson Murphy)
Taylor is fresh off the plane from San Francisco where he spent the weekend with the Salomon crew at the Big Alta. Alex and Taylor mull over the weekend and determine whether this is an event to check out in future years. Then, they have a quick chat about a shoe that has been a staple in Taylor's return to running over the last three months, the Salomon Aero Glide 4 GRVL. Guest: Grayson Murphy is a world champion…
Mar 23, 2026 442 | Jeff Metzdorff - Mill City Running
Thomas interviews Jeff Metzdorff of Mill City Running.
Mar 20, 2026 441 | Karl Fernandez, Believe in the Run | Origin Stories
This week, Thomas sits down with Karl, our Media Coordinator, to talk through his origin story. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS SOAR Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not…
Mar 18, 2026 The Dirt Division E021 | Back Then
The crew is back to their normal shenani’s and reminisced on the olden days. They discuss some of the trends that were popular when they started running.Guest: Kevin Benes is the founder and owner of Running Wild Events in Estes Park, Co. He and Taylor talk about his history in running, his array of quirky events, why running is currently sitting in the back seat, and some of his favorite trail shoes of all time.
Mar 13, 2026 440 | LA Marathon Recap, Adidas Hyperboost Edge, Mount to Coast H1 BITR
Meg is back from Los Angeles where she wrapped up the grand finale of the ASICS LA 100, a 16-week journey that culminated with one hundred women running the LA Marathon on International Women's Day. It was quite the weekend, to say the least. We also cover some thoughts on the Adidas Hyperboost Edge, a controversial design but with an undeniably great feeling underfoot. Also– Monday is the official pre-sale date of…
Mar 11, 2026 The Dirt Division E020 | Arc'teryx Sylan 2, Headphones, & Underwear
Reese, Alex, and Taylor talk about a hodgepodge of topics ranging from their current training, wearing headphones, and running with underwear. They eventually get around to initial thoughts about Arc'teryx race shoe, the Sylan 2. Guest: Dylan Bowman is, perhaps, trail running's Ambassador Supreme. His life and business revolve around the sport he loves. He is also stepping into a new season as an athlete who gets…
Mar 6, 2026 439 | Back From Busan, On Lightspray Factory, Spirit > Southwest
Thomas and Karl are back from South Korea, where they got an up-close look at the all-new On Lightspray factory, full of droids producing a whole army's worth of running footwear. They cover the entire trip while Robbe defends Spirit Airlines to the death and Meg gives a preview of her upcoming weekend with ASICS and the Los Angeles Marathon 100 Women Challenge. Thomas also drops the deets on the upcoming Mount to…
Mar 4, 2026 The Dirt Division E019 | How We Review (ft. Max King)
The Dirt Division has reviewers around the country. This week we chat about the “art” of reviewing. Hear about our approach to building a profile and our opinions about each shoe we review.Guest: Max King has had a long illustrative career in trail running, and it continues with the support of Kailas Fuga. Most recently he took on the challenge of the Barkley Marathons.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!LMNTSlim cans are our…
Mar 2, 2026 438 | Live from the On Lightspray Factory
Thomas interviews Olivier Bernhard and Caspar Coppetti, On Co-Founders, and Scott Maguire, On's Chief Innovation Officer, on the floor of On's new Lightspray factory in South Korea. Topics include the conception of the factory, the new Lightspray Cloudmonster 3 Hyper, and how innovation in automation is driving the brand forward.
Feb 27, 2026 437 | New Balance Ellipse, Jared & Jarrett, Looksmaxxing & Peptide Stacking
Thomas and Karl are checking out the all-new On Lightspray factory in South Korea, so we test a new and incredibly confusing format with Wide Foot Jarrett and Normal Foot Jared. We still manage to keep it unhinged, covering everything from jogging strollers to peptide stacking and a converation about cotton and sweat. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS SOAR Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to…
Feb 25, 2026 The Dirt Division E018 | Adidas Terrex Agravic Speed, Why You SHOULD Run and Ultra (ft. Erin Ton)
This week, the crew talks about the flip side of the coin - reasons why you SHOULD run ultras. Then, they talk shop about the Hoka Speedgoat 7 as it compares to the beloved Speedgoat 4 Evo. Guest: Taylor chats with Teva Beureau of Adventure athlete, Erin Ton. Her life is all about adventure. She has the most FKT's of any woman in the world and has recently recorded the fastest time on one of the world's Seven…
Feb 23, 2026 436 | Hylo - Live in London
Thomas and Robbe sit down with Hylo CEO Jacob Green and Chief Product Officer Jorma Seabourne to share the story of how Hylo came to life, where the brand is headed next, and what truly sets their product apart — all with a healthy dose of classic British humour along the way. Tune in for an honest, behind-the-scenes conversation you won’t want to miss. Check out Hylo: https://hyloathletics.com/
Feb 20, 2026 435 | Adidas Archives in Nuremberg, Last of London, Witches & Ravens
Thomas and Karl return from their addended trip to the Adidas HQ in Germany where they delved into the footwear archives. We wrap up our final two days in London. We wonder about witches and whey. All of us may be suffering from jet lag, so bear with us. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS SOAR SOAR’s 1 Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if…
Feb 18, 2026 The Dirt Division E017 | Nike ACG Ultrafly, Why You SHOULDN'T Run an Ultra (ft. Terignota)
Alex brought a juicy topic to the group this week. They went round robin on reasons NOT to run an ultra. Then, they chat about some of their initial thoughts on the Nike ACG Ultrafly. Guest: Terignota is a trail running apparel brand that has blown up over the past year. Found, Alex King, and Taylor chat about the quick trajectory, what makes Terignota special in a saturated space, and more.
Feb 16, 2026 434 | Andy Baddeley, Olympian, The Running Channel
Andy Baddeley is a father, an Olympian, a co-founder of the Running Channel, and the previous parkrun world record holder. Thomas and Andy talk about what it was like competing compared to now, the team at The Running Channel, and many other topics in this episode of The Drop. Check out The Running Channel here: ⁠https://therunningchannel.com/
Feb 13, 2026 433 | London Field Trip with Hylo, Delta One Mishaps, Platform 9 3/4, West Ham
The gang is across the pond on today's episode. In store: Hylo, Delta One mishaps, English breakfast, and really terrible impressions. From West Ham to Platform 9 3/4, this one has it all, folks. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS LMNT It's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in…
Feb 11, 2026 The Dirt Division E016 | Sacrifice, Adidas Terrex Agravic TT (ft. Christian Allen)
Taylor, Alex, and Reese jump right in this week with topics ranging from personal philosophies on eating food off of the ground to personal stitches. They also chat about the Adidas Terrex Agravic TT as well as sacrifices they are willing to make for races depending on duration and terrain.GUEST: Nike ACG’s poster child, Christian Allen, joins Taylor to talk about his versatility as an athlete, faith, and his big…
Feb 9, 2026 432 | Nick Harris-Fry, The Run Testers
Nick Harris-Fry from The Run Testers joins Thomas for this episode of the Drop to talk all things running shoes, YouTube, The Run Testers, and for the first time ever, we do a live review of the Hoka Cielo X1 3.0.
Feb 6, 2026 431 | Donna Marathon Weekend & Winter GRIT Party Recap
The team went down to Florida and brought the coldest temperatures in a hundred years along with them for The Donna Marathon Weekend. We recap our races and the Winter GRIT party and our time at Waffle House, among many other things. Thanks to everyone that came out, we had an amazing time despite the unseasonable temps. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Four Points by Sheraton @ Jax Beach We had the best time ever at The Donna…
Feb 4, 2026 The Dirt Division E015 | Hoka Speedgoat 7, Race day shoes pt. 1 (ft. Cade Michael)
This week, the Trail Trio discusses considerations for choosing race day footwear - which proves to be much more difficult to come to a consensus than one would think. Guest: Cade Michael is an up and coming trail runner who has taken some big swings this past year! He’s looking to improve on those results and continue to establish himself as one of the USA’s top prospective athletes in 2026. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!…
Feb 2, 2026 430 | Nikhil Jain - Brooks Running, Live From The Running Event 2025
Nikhil Jain is the Director of Footwear Product Line Management at Brooks Running. Thomas and Meg had the opportunity to talk all things Glycerin Flex with him at The Running Event.
Jan 30, 2026 429 | Hoka Cielo X1 3.0, Listener Questions, Best/Worst Marathon Medals
We're bringing the listeners into the mix as we answer a handful of questions, including our picks for best and worst marathon medals. We also recap our snow day(s) here in Baltimore and Alex Honnold doing weird things on tall buildings before covering the just-released Hoka Cielo X1 3.0, a lighter and even more energetic race-day shoe. Shop the Gorewear sale and save another 15% off by using code BITR15:…
Jan 28, 2026 Dirt Division E014 | Merrell Agility Peak 6, Treadmills (ft. Kila cofounder Cole Zucker)
Taylor and Reese prepare themselves for gross winter weather to hit by trading thoughts about the treadmill. Likewise, they chat about the upcoming Merrell Agility Peak 6. Guest: Cole Zucker is the founder of Kila, an insole company that's built on the premise of run performance. Taylor and Cole talk about Cole's background in the lighting industry and how his experiences helped launch Kila.
Jan 23, 2026 428 | Adidas Evo SL Woven, Move Her Mind Summit, Jumping Beans & Chicken Pox
Meg is back from the Move Her Mind Summit (and podium finish at the Rose Bowl Half), so we get a recap of all of that. Meanwhile, Thomas took some R&R in Charleston while Robbe got into some weird Baltimore stuff as usual. We also cover jumping beans, chicken pox, dark web stuff, and more, including the Adidas Prime X Evo and Adidas Evolution.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!PILLARRecently, we’ve been taking PILLAR Triple…
Jan 21, 2026 Dirt Division E013 - TNF Altamesa 500 v2, Desert miles (ft. Teva Athlete, Michael Wardian)
Reese is on assignment in Arizona to check out the course for her upcoming race, Black Canyon 100k. She gives the details on her trip, her training, and even a GOAT sighting on the trail. Taylor and Reese then try to sort out the whole "gravel running" conversation and talk about if it's a worthy category to get excited about.Guest: Teva athlete Michael Wardian returns to the show to catch up with Taylor. They…
Jan 16, 2026 427 | Mizuno Neo Zen 2, Houston Recap, Brad Pitt Glazing, and More
The first rule about The Drop is that you don't talk about The Drop. Mostly because your friends will think less of you. On this episode, we give a hagiography of Brad Pitt, Robbe tries to trap a mouse, and we cover all the exciting stuff that happened at the Houston Marathon last weekend. We almost lost one of our listeners, but luckily a doctor was on hand to bring him back to us. Thankful for that and for…
Jan 14, 2026 The Dirt Division E012 | Speedland GS:BLK, Burrito League, and Crewing (ft. Chris Myers)
Alex returns this month with a genuine question about selecting your crew for ultras. The trio also chat about the hot topic of January, The Burrito League, and the newest comission in the Speedland lineup, the GS:BLK. Guest: Chris Myers is a Brooks and Runderwear athlete who has mixed up with the best of the best on the trails. He and Taylor talk a little bit about but even more on other topics like his underwear…
Jan 12, 2026 426 | Yowana Wamala, Founder of Supwell Running
Yowana Wamala is the founder and CEO of Supwell. Find him on Youtube here: https://youtube.com/@supwell?si=SHRm0oeTUDQxVw7z
Jan 9, 2026 425 | Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 4, Truett Hanes OTQ, Awful Geography, Roast My Strava
It's been a few weeks since we've been in studio, so there's been plenty of stuff brewing that we needed to get out. We focus on the trivial, from the lack of cigs in Stranger Things to Maduro's Nike fit to Sage Canaday's beef with unnamed hybrid athlete Truett Hanes. Also, we talk about the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 4, which has taken a big leap forward from the previous version. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! PILLAR If…
Jan 7, 2026 The Dirt Division E011 | Scott Kinabalu Trail, Winter Break/New Year (ft. TJ and Ian of 7Mesh)
The duet is back together after an extended year end vacation. They chat about a range of topics from their holiday’s, gas stations, to their post-mortal preferences. Of course, they talk about trail running a with the upcoming Scott Kinabalu Trail and what they look forward to in 2026.Guest: 7Mesh is a high-performance clothing brand that started the way many high-quality brands begin. TJ and Ian, cofounders of…
Jan 2, 2026 424 | Holiday Roundup Part 2 - 2025 Recap
In Part 2 of our Holiday Series, we’re recapping the year that was. We kick things off in Miami with HOKA, then roll through an action-packed spring—Kenya, Boston, London, the Move Her Mind Event Series, Western States, #Breaking4 in Paris, welcoming Taylor Boding officially to the team, Worlds in Tokyo, Thomas’ trip to China, Chicago, NYC, and so much more.Thank you all for supporting us every step of the way this…
Dec 29, 2025 423 | Molly Seidel, Trail Runner & Olympic Bronze Medalist
I mean, it's Molly freakin' Seidel, Olympic bronze medalist and all-around great person who is now a certified trail runner with a whole slate of off-road adventures lined up in 2026. We talk about that, but we also dive into mysterious vortexes, magic minerals, and her favorite shoes right now. Follow Molly on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bygolly.molly/
Dec 26, 2025 422 | Holiday Part 1 - The Marathon Project Recap
We’ve got a lot to unpack as we close out 2025, starting with a deep dive into Meg’s experience at The Marathon Project—from travel chaos to racing in the Nike Proto. We also break down our favorite shoes, gear, and brands of the year, plus share some listener and viewer stats to round things out. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! MAURTEN Meg's raced The Marathon Project last week and you know she relied on Maurten for race…
Dec 24, 2025 The Dirt Division E010 | 2025 Reflecitons
Reese and Taylor take the time to reflect on a big 2025. First they chat about the new Adidas Terrex Agravic Speed Ultra 2 and then dive into the deep end of 2025 where they talk about everything from the idea of time itself to skin care routines.
Dec 22, 2025 421 | Nicholas Thompson, Author & CEO of The Atlantic
As CEO of The Atlantic, father of three boys, and age group record holder for the 50K, Nick Thompson has a lot on his plate. That includes writing a new book, The Running Ground, one of our most favorite running books in recent memory. Part memoir and part love letter to the sport, it explores the ups and downs of life and the thread of running through it all. Robbe talks to him about all of that and more in this…
Dec 19, 2025 420 | Puma Magmax Nitro 2, Meg and The Marathon Project, Taylor Swift's Giving
Happy E420 from the team! While we didn't ingest anyting to celebrate, we did go stream of consciousness on this episode. From Jimmy Eat World to the Army/Navy game to Meg's pre-race sickness, Baltimore had a lot going on this weekend. Speaking of races, Meg is headed out to Arizona to run the Marathon Project in a very special prototype. We also talk about The Running Ground, overzealous soccer parents,…
Dec 17, 2025 The Dirt Division E009 | Trail Running in Winter (ft. Sophia Laukli)
Taylor, Reese, and Alex (long time BITR contributer) chat about running during winter. Love it or hate it, we all still need to move in the colder months of the year. What adjustments do you make to still get out? Topics of travel, nutrition, gear, training approaches, and more are all packed into this episode. Guest: Sophia Laukli is a multi-sport pro for Maurten and Salomon. She has cross country skied her whole…
Dec 15, 2025 419 | Kiprun - Live from the Running Event
Thomas and Robbe sat down with Kiprun's CMO Julien Vancauwenberghe and Product Lead Pierre-Emmanuel Gaillard to chat about their entrance into the US next year, including what shoes you'll be able to purchase in April.
Dec 12, 2025 418 | The Running Event Recap
We went deep into the heart of Texas with nearly 6,000 other runners as we took over San Antonio for the The Running Event 2025. Over the course of three days, we lined up over 40 meetings to gather all the intel we could about running shoes, apparel, gear, and nutrition. This is our report of that event, as well as a full recap of our experience at the Rainforest Cafe. It's a long one, but well worth it. Limited…
Dec 10, 2025 The Dirt Division E008 | TRE Recap (ft. Anna Gibson)
The Dirt Division met up with the Baltimore Crew down in San Antonio to check out all that's to come in 2026. Listen to their observations of trends, what they are excited about, and the inevitable stories that come out of such a weekend.Guest: Anna Gibson is one of the best that the US has to offer. The US Olympic Trials qualifier on the track just just wrapped up an epic year of trail with world-class results at…
Dec 8, 2025 417 | Andy Wacker, Founder of The Trail Team
Andy Wacker is a professional runner from Boulder, Colorado who run roads, track, trails at an elite level. He also wears many other hats in the running world including directing an elite trail running development team. Taylor and Andy talk about all of that and more. Follow Andy on Instagram: @wackera
Dec 5, 2025 416 | Brooks Glycerin Flex, Thanksgiving Weekend Highlights
We’re headed off to TRE, but first we recap our Thanksgiving weekends including turkey trots and family fun. Eventually, we talk about our experience in the Brooks Glycerin Flex, a daily trainer with an ultra flexible midsole. Glycerin Flex: https://www.brooksrunning.com/en_us/glycerin-flex.html Register for Winter GRIT: https://www.believeintherun.com/grit SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! MAURTEN We crushed nearly a dozen…
Dec 3, 2025 The Dirt Division E007 | Holiday gifts for Trail Runners & Love Languages (ft. Dan Green)
If you're anything like Taylor and Reese, you're hard to buy gifts for. They are here helping us all out whether you're a trail runner or getting something for a trail runner. We have reviewed a lot of gift-worthy gear this year. Here are some of our favorites in all price categories. Guest: Dan Green has had a major year of trail running with a race calendar and results that any trail runner would dream of! The…
Dec 1, 2025 415 | Andy Wynne, Founder of Nuyarn Merino
Robbe talks with Andy Wynne, founder of Nuyarn, leading the way in Merino technology. It's a deep dive into one of our favorite materials on earth. Learn more about Nuyarn: https://nuyarn.com/ Check out our guide to running in Merino: https://believeintherun.com/gear-reviews/merino-wool-guide-for-winter-running/
Nov 28, 2025 414 | JFK 50 Mile Recap, Winter GRIT 2026, Mount to Coast x BITR H1
Thomas and Robbe recap all the ups and downs of their traverse through the JFK 50 Mile race, which turned out to be much better than their initial test run of the trail portion. Also, Winter GRIT registration opens at 9 a.m. TODAY (November 28), so make sure you get in on it before it sells out! Plus, we just announced our first ever shoe collab with Mount to Coast, which comes out in Spring 2026. Register for…
Nov 26, 2025 The Dirt Division E006 | Post JFK, Tim Tollefson
Reese gives the full recap on an epic day at the historic JFK 50 miler with the Believe in the Run Crew. Guest: Tim Tollefson is on the Drop for the second time. This time, he's wearing his race director's hat. Taylor and Tim talk about the challenges and privileges of hosting an event like Mammoth Trailfest.
Nov 23, 2025 413 | Michael Doughty, Founder of Hylo Athletics
Robbe talks with Michael Doughty, founder of Hylo Athletics, about his vision for the brand, his life as a premier league footballer, and much more. Check out Hylo Athletics: https://us.hyloathletics.com/Follow Hylo Athletics on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hyloathletics
Nov 21, 2025 412 | Brooks Glycerin Max 2, Bib Banditing, Matcha Tea, Moving to Maine
Matcha is in, pumpkin spice is out, and we're your performative podcast to get you through your long run. We cover the whole spectrum of what goes on in our cranial cavities, from bib banditing to buying mountains in Maine. We also talk about the Brooks Glycerin Max 2, which seems to be quite different from v1. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! MAURTEN The top two men and top three women at the New York City Marathon used…
Nov 19, 2025 The Dirt Division E005 | NYC Marathon as a Trail Runner and pre-JFK (ft. Epic Bill Bradley)
Reese and Taylor start by talking about training and Taylor's trip to the NYC marathon. Then, they chat about all things JFK. Not only is the race unique, it's a sentimental homecoming for Reese.Guest: Epic Bill earned his name after heartbreak. His sucessful video store business collapsed which led him to approach new challenges the only way he knew how - show up and suffer. He has become known as the…
Nov 17, 2025 411 | Cole Townsend, Running Supply
Robbe chats with Cole Townsend of Running Supply about his love of run culture, his favorite brands right now, and what's trending. They also discuss the state of running and the final boss question: has run culture peaked? Subscribe to the Running Supply Substack: https://runningsupply.substack.com/
Nov 14, 2025 410 | R.A.D UFO, JFK 50 Preview Run, Car Radios
Hit scan on your car radio and tune in to this week's episode of The Drop, where Thomas and Robbe recap their adventurous 14-mile trail run as part of their JFK 50 Mile preview. Suffice it say, these city boys are ready to go for next weekend, whether that's true or not. We also talk about the R.A.D UFO, a running shoe that kind of came out of nowhere and stole our hearts. Check out R.A.D:…
Nov 12, 2025 The Dirt Division E004 | Parley Hannan, Hylo Athletics/ Northwoods Athletics Pro
Are 200's the new 100s? Reese and Taylor talk about the growing trend of going farther. Why is it a thing? We're still perplexed, and curious, about the challenge. Guest: Taylor catches Parley Hannan, Hylo Athletics' first signed athlete, fresh off the plane. They discuss her running trajectory from not even running until college to setting NCAA records to OTQ’s and The Speed Project. They also chat…
Nov 10, 2025 409 | Felix Cartal, DJ and Producer
Felix Cartal is a platinum- and gold-certified DJ and producer based out of Vancouver, Canada, Last month, he ran a 10K every day for 30 days leading up to the release of his newest album "i, sabotage." We talk with him about running, coming up as a DJ, working with artists like Tegan and Sara, what he listens to on his runs, and a bunch of other random stuff. Great guy, great music, great conversation. Follow…
Nov 7, 2025 408 | New York City Marathon Recap
Another year, another trip through the five boroughs. We recap our experience during the New York City Marathon weekend, including an epic shakeout run with New Balance, the united front of our 4-hour pace group, and the full rundown of race day as we covered 26.2 from Staten Island to Central Park. Wide Foot Jarrett fills in for Thomas. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! MAURTEN The top two men and top three women at the New…
Nov 5, 2025 The Dirt Division E003 | Taylor Stack (Brooks Pro)
Trail running is, perhaps, the worst at using acronyms. UTMB, GTWS, FKT. What does it all mean and how can you get experience some of the best of our sport? Reese and Taylor talk about some of the main trail running series and how you can potential join in on the fun. Guest: Taylor Stack is a rookie professional trail runner for Brooks. While this is his first year as a pro, he has had performances that put him in…
Nov 3, 2025 407 | Conner Mantz, Maurten Athlete
Fresh off his American record-breaking finish at the Chicago Marathon, Maurten athlete Conner Mantz joins us for a special edition of The Drop. We talk about fueling and training and get the behind the scenes story of his finish at the Olympic Trials. Also, his great grandfather flew with Amelia Earhart across the Pacific, so that's cool. Thankfully, he picked the right ocean. Conner fuels with Maurten for all his…
Oct 31, 2025 406 | NYC Preview, Gift Giving, 67, Sports Betting, Weapons, Nipple Tape
It's marathon week (again) and we're already in the Big Apple as we prepare for a full weekend of activities. But first, we discuss our current training, updates to Robbe's injury, a little pre-Christmas gift giving courtesy of Thomas, and a movie review of Weapons. If you're in New York this weekend, we hope to see you there, and if you're running– have an incredible time running through the greatest city on…
Oct 29, 2025 The Dirt Division E002 | Emkay Sullivan (Craft Athlete)
Taylor and Reese of Believe in the Run's Dirt Division chat about injuries that plague us and some treatments that could help runners. They also chat about the gravel category of trail running shoes. Is it a legit thing? Craft and many other brands seem to think so. They dive a further into the Craft Nordlite Ultra Pro and Nordlite Ultra 2. Guest: Emkay Sullivan is a trail runner for Craft. She has the unique…
Oct 27, 2025 405 | Mikey Kratzer, New Balance & Run Culture
Thomas chats with Mikey Kratzer, a run culture enthusiast and New Balance partner, about life, running, and his philosophy on all things. Follow Mikey on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikey_kratzer_/
Oct 24, 2025 404 | Baltimore Running Festival
INDEX 0:00 - Intro 0:26 - BITR Intro Video Contest 1:44 - Robbe's Injury / Karaoke after BRF / Meta Oakley Shields 16:57 - NYC Marathon 4-Hour Pace Group / 100 Women Los Angeles Marathon Program 26:22 - BITR x NYC Marathon Plans / MTV Shutting Down / Sirius XM 34:42 - Baltimore Running Festival / Cape Town Marathon Cancellation 1:13:27 - Shoe Talk / Fantasy Football / Closing Thoughts
Oct 22, 2025 The Dirt Division | E001
Taylor and Reese of Believe in the Run's Dirt Division are here for Episode 1 of the Dirt Division podcast. They talk about their most recent adventures at Western States and UTMB, with a few side tangents thrown in.
Oct 20, 2025 403 | Lea Mulligan, La Sportiva Pro Runner
Taylor chats with Lea Mulligan, pro runner for La Sportiva, who recently finished top-10 overall at the Leadville 100. Follow Lea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leamulligan/ Read our reviews of La Sportiva shoes: https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/type/trail/?shoe_brand=972
Oct 17, 2025 402 | Chicago Marathon Recap
Our Chicago weekend was full of fun and friends and family, from our epic shakeout run with New Balance to Thomas's finish at the Chicago Marathon. We had an incredible time meeting so many of you, cheering you on during the race, witnessing Conner Mantz break the American record, and taking in the sights and sounds of the city. Not sure how we feel about Chicago Italian beef though. We'll just stick with the dogs.…
Oct 13, 2025 401 | Chris Marroquin, Director of Player Rehabilitation for the Baltimore Ravens
Thomas chats with Chris Marroquin, Director of Player Rehabilitation for the Baltimore Ravens about what it's like to work with professional athletes, staying healthy while playing sports, his background as a physical therapist, his running journey, and much more.
Oct 10, 2025 400 | Chicago Preview, Spooky Stuff, Xenon Gas and Ouija Boards
Well folks, were so busy climbing the mountain that we forgot we made it to episode 400. So while we didn't bust out the balloons, we almost broke out a Ouija board and said Bloody Mary three times just to see what would happen. We also mansplain Taylor Swift's artistic direction before deep dishing on Chicago Marathon weekend and Thomas's fueling plan for the race. If you are in Chicago, come out to our shakeout…
Oct 6, 2025 399 | Mammoth Trailfest Recap
Taylor packed his bags and headed out to the Mammoth Trailfest in Mammoth Lake, California (sponsored by Craft) for the weekend. Get his recap of one of the most fun events in trail running today.Read his recap: https://believeintherun.com/mammoth-trailfest/
Oct 3, 2025 398 | Hoka Mach X 3, Baby Quails, Flyby Etiquette, Chicago Weekend Details
Big things are coming as we head to Chicago next weekend, so we got you covered on that end. We also discuss Meg's infatuation with baby quails, running etiquette on multiple flybys, our training for the New York Marathon and JFK 50 Mile, and our somewhat delayed reactions to the Berlin Marathon. Finally, we cover the Hoka Mach X 3, which sees an improved upper over last year's version. SUPPORT OUR…
Sep 29, 2025 397 | Mary Denholm, Craft Athlete
Taylor chats with Mary Denholm, a pro ultrarunner and Craft athlete. Follow Mary on Instagram: @eatrunandbemary
Sep 26, 2025 396 | Thomas in China, Mount-To-Coast H1
The gang came back to Baltimore while Thomas went to China. From Guangzhou to Hong Kong, we dive deep into all his culinary and running adventures, including a behind the scenes visit to a manufacturing facility for Mount to Coast and many other brands. We also do shots of Kweichoi Moutai out of respect. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! MAURTEN Get 15% off by using code Believe15!* We use Maurten gels for all our races and…
Sep 22, 2025 395 | Eli Hemming, Adidas Terrex Athlete
Taylor chats with Adidas Terrex Athlete Eli Hemming. Follow Eli on Instagram: @eli_hemming
Sep 19, 2025 394 | World Athletics Championships and Tokyo Recap
We traveled a day ahead and a week in time to experience the 2025 World Athletics Championship in Tokyo. From the 100 meter finals to the world record in the pole vault to the men's and women's marathons on a hot and humid morning, we witnessed greatness across the board. We did our best to assimilate and only made a few blunders along the way (that we're aware of, anyway). We may not have come back…
Sep 15, 2025 393 | Kyle Siegel, Raide Founder
Taylor interviews Kyle Siegel, founder of Raide - a performance based apparel and equipment company focused in the trail space. Check out their products and learn more about the company here: https://raideresearch.com/
Sep 12, 2025 392 | Nike Vomero Premium, Cactus Fingers, 90s Teen Movies, Phillies Karen
Stuck with cacti and debating the merits of art school and She's All That, that's where we're at. We make sure you're covered with all the unnecessary info before diving into the Nike Vomero Premium, the third release in the Vomero line for 2025, featuring a 55 mm (!) stack height for the dual-Air Zoom midsole. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! MAURTEN Get 15% off by using code Believe15!* We use Maurten gels for all our races…
Sep 8, 2025 391 | Mario Fraioli, Running Coach & Writer
Robbe sits down for a chat with Mario Fraioli, running coach and author of The Morning Shakeout newsletter on Substack, to talk about daily journaling, how running changes as we get older, showing up when you don't feel like it, music, culture, and much more. Subscribe to The Morning Shakeout: https://substack.com/@mariofraioli Check out his website: https://mariofraioli.com/
Sep 5, 2025 390 | UTMB Recap Pt. 2, Hoka Mafate 5
Thomas and Karl are back in the U S of A where the salt mounds of South Baltimore are a close second to the snowy peaks of Mont Blanc. We hear all about their remaining adventures, including a seasick paragliding adventure and watching the finish of the greatest trail race on the planet. We also cover some of the Adidas Chasing 100 event and the wonderful world of piglet racing. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS MAURTEN Get 20%…
Sep 1, 2025 389 | Tatum Brandt, Founder Brandt Creative
Thomas chat with Tatum Brandt, founder and creative director of Brandt Creative Co . , a design studio specializing in branding and web development for fitness, wellness, and sports businesses.
Aug 29, 2025 388 | Live From Chamonix
The Dirt Division is in Chamonix for UTMB, so the crew is coming to you live from their little chalet. The gang recaps their time so far, including the ETC race which Thomas and Karl participated in. Taylor also recaps his experience racing Leadville 100. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT We're in the full swing of marathon training, so get your 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to…
Aug 25, 2025 387 | Abby Hall, Adidas Terrex Athlete
Taylor sits down with Abby Hall, Adidas Terrex Athlete, straight off her win at Western States.
Aug 22, 2025 386 | Asics Metaspeed Ray, Norda 001A, Leadville 100 Recap, Cod is the New Creatine
Grab a cod fillet bar, it's time to get some gainz. This week on The Drop, we recap Robbe's breathing struggles at the Leadville 100 as he helped crew Taylor, leader of the Dirt Division. We also recap Meg's latest Move Her Mind stop, before discussing The New York Times article every long distance runner is talking about. Eventually, we discuss a trio of shoes: the featherweight Asics Metaspeed Ray, the Under…
Aug 18, 2025 385 | Ben Rosario, Co-Founder and CEO of The Marathon Project
We sat down with Ben Rosario to talk all things The Marathon Project—but first, we trace his journey through the sport. From his early running days to launching Big River Running Co. in college, moving to Flagstaff to found NAZ Elite, Ben’s path has been a fun journey to follow. Now, he’s reviving The Marathon Project in a bold, reimagined way, and Meg will be one of the 1000 amateurs toeing the line of the Gold…
Aug 15, 2025 384 | Asics Sonicblast & Megablast, Body Camera Weigh-Ins, Super Bowl Monday
Robbe is currently losing his lungs in Colorado as he gets ready to help Taylor run the Leadville 100, but we got this podcast recorded before he self-destructed. I mean, we kind of self-destructed by diving into things we know nothing about, like carnival games at the doctor's office, WNBA, and declaring the day after the Super Bowl an official federal holiday. Enjoy your day off, you're welcome. Oh yeah, we also…
Aug 11, 2025 383 | Jonah Koech, Under Armour & 1500 Champ
Fresh off his win in the 1500 at Hayward Field for the US Champs, Under Armour elite Jonah Koech joins us in studio to talk about that race, the upcoming World Championships in Tokyo, and his mindset during running. Also, he's lived in Baltimore for three years and hasn't had crabs or gone to an Orioles game so we need to fix that ASAP. Watch his race: https://youtu.be/dWnr_7vdQVk?si=nbI36ADoNehCScmu
Aug 8, 2025 382 | New Balance Fresh Foam More V6, Knights of Columbus, Ostrich Racing, Lightning Strikes
From swim stories to ostrich racing to figure out if we're Team Shelby, the stars aligned this week to bring you the best running content second to the National Championships. We also recap Summer GRIT and this past weekend's ice cream party before diving in the New Balance Fresh Foam More v6 and a little bit of Puma Velocity Nitro 4. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT Thomas is mixing and matching flavors, Robbe is tapped…
Aug 4, 2025 381 | Josh Rosenthal, Borderlands
Taylor sits down with Josh Rosenthal, founder of Borderlands, a trail runner's hub that centers on community. We talk about his small-town roots, entrepreneurial spirit, and how running has hooked him like nothing else. Listen to his story and everything he's involved with in the trail running space. Check out Borderlands: https://www.instagram.com/runborderlands/
Aug 1, 2025 380 | Nike Structure 26, Norda 008, Wharf to Wharf Recap, Monterey Jack
We were all surprised to learn that Monterey Jack cheese came from Monterey, but we weren't surprised by Meg churning out some fast miles at the Wharf to Wharf 6-miler in Santa Cruz. We recap her West Coast journey as well as Thomas and Robbe's trip to Brooklyn (just a couple days after the launch of the On Cloudsurfer Max). Also, Summer GRIT just wrapped up and we had some incredibly performances to highlight…
Jul 28, 2025 379 | Alfredo Mejia, Run Culture Editor for Believe in the Run
Running is firing on all cylinders right now, which means that run culture is a multi-facted ecosystem revolving around branding, fashion, and personal style. Today on the podcast, Robbe chats with our run culture editor Alfredo Mejia, who joins him from Berlin to talk about the most exciting stuff happening in run culture, including everything he saw at Paris Fashion Week last month. Make sure you read all of…
Jul 25, 2025 378 | Puma Velocity Nitro 4, Florida Man, Savory Ice Cream, Fall Race Plans
Robbe is manifesting true Florida Man energy this week so Karl takes his place in front of the camera. Topics this episode include our fall race plans, beer floats, the final TransRockies Run, and more Summer GRIT updates. We also take a look at the Puma Velocity Nitro 4, the new lightweight daily trainer from Puma that is pretty versatile by all accounts. Join the boys this Sunday, July 27 in Brooklyn for "Coffee…
Jul 21, 2025 377 | Ed Coyon, Global Head of Product for On
From Swiss underdogs to global heatseeker, On has won softly over the past decade with its unique approach to footwear design and performance. This week, Robbe chats with Ed Coyon, Global Head of Product for the brand, to talk about On's approach to running, design, production, and the all-new Cloudsurfer Max. The On Cloudsurfer Max is available now for $180: https://www.on.com/
Jul 18, 2025 376 | Adidas Adizero Prime X 3 Strung, Weight & Sea, Bahama Papa
Throw on your sweaty headphones and tune in for this week's episode of The Drop, featuring an elevator pitch for America's hottest new airline: Weight & See. We also hear about Thomas's trip to the Bahamas and Meg's behind-the-scenes look at the Brooks HQ out in Seattle. Then there's Robbe, who was just sifting through trash in Baltimore. Finally, we cover the Adidas Adizero Prime X 3 Strung, a super trainer…
Jul 14, 2025 375 | Ben Gibbard, Death Cab For Cutie / Speedland Athlete
This was a bucket list one, for sure. Thomas and Robbe's souls meet body as they chat with Ben Gibbard of Death Cab For Cutie and The Postal Service, as well as an ultrarunner and Speedland athlete. We dive into his recent finish at the Western States Endurance Run, what he listens to when he runs (Turnstile), as well as the release of his upcoming signature Speedland shoe, the GS:TMT. Pre-order the Speedland…
Jul 11, 2025 374 | Satisfy TheRocker, Skechers Aero Tempo, Mr. Tasty, Seattle Serial Sleuthing
We're in the swing of Summer GRIT, big things happened at the Prefontaine Classic, and we try and figure out if cloud seeding meatballs can solve world hunger. If so, why aren't we doing that? Also, Meg heads to Seattle where she's going to dig into some mysteries outside of running. Finally, we talk about both the Skechers Aero Tempo and Satisfy TheRocker, two shoes on vastly different sides of the…
Jul 7, 2025 373 | Seth Ruhling, The North Face Athlete
It's another episode with Taylor, head of the Dirt Division, and this time he goes deep with ultrarunner Seth Ruhling. As part of The North Face team, Seth took on Western States and pulled in a 6th-place finish. This interview took place before the race, so we talk about Seth's upbringing, his training, and obviously his favorite shoes for taking on long challenges.
Jul 4, 2025 372 | Breaking4 and Western States Recap
Merry GRIT-MAS to all who celebrate, it's been good to get some miles with all of you this week. And what a week it was, as Thomas and Taylor and the Dirt Division headed to Western States, while Meg said oui to Paris for the Nike Breaking4 Project. History was made and we were honored to witness it. Watch the Breaking4 recap on our YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/bivyb7HoeRwSUPPORT OUR SPONSORSLMNT You already…
Jun 30, 2025 371 | Adam Gamble, Nowhere Somewhere
Thomas chats with Adam Gamble, founder of Nowhere Somewhere, a start-up run apparel brand featuring a range of t-shirts, hats, hoodies, and other apparel. Check out Nowhere Somewhere: https://www.nowheresomewhere.run/
Jun 27, 2025 370 | Brooks Hyperion Elite 5, Nike Breaking4 Predictions, Lost in Grand Rapids
We recorded this on Monday, but right now Meg is in Paris reliving the excitement of seeing Nike's Breaking4 project with Faith Kipyegon. Thomas and Karl are at Western States, while Robbe is home with George, making margaritas with LMNT mango chili rims. We also recap our fun weekend with Mount to Coast and then talk about Meg's experience in the Brooks Hyperion Elite 5. Check out all our Western States…
Jun 23, 2025 369 | Andrew Dutton, @ad___sneaks
Thomas sits down with Andrew Dutton, better known online as @ad___sneaks. Dutton is a middle-school teacher in Lehi, Utah, who has earned a devoted following on Instagram through his passion for sneaker photography. Dutton began snapping sneakers during the pandemic and has since evolved into a recognized visual storyteller.
Jun 20, 2025 368 | Brooks Hyperion Max 3 vs. Mizuno Neo Vista 2, Weird Baltimore Stuff, The Most Dangerous Game
All Thomas wants is a techno song with Gregorian chants, but instead we get Sabrina Carpenter. All Robbe wants is an ultramarathon with tranquilizer darts and Mario Kart red shells, but instead we have the Western States 100. All Meg wants is for all of this nonsense to end. Anyway, we talk about all of that, as well as an in-podcast Between 2 Shoes where we compare the Brooks Hyperion Max 3 and Mizuno Neo Vista 2.…
Jun 16, 2025 367 | Dani Moreno, Adidas Terrex Athlete
Dirt Division leader Taylor, and longtime BITR contributor, Alex, sit down with Adidas Terrex athlete, Dani Moreno. Dani comes by way of Mammoth Lakes, California but grew up in LA where life was much different. They talk about Dani's history with sport, her adventurous hiatus from running, and her aspirations as she comes back from injury which includes trail racing at the highest level of our sport and that…
Jun 13, 2025 366 | Asics Metaspeed Edge/Sky Tokyo, Dark Web Weirdness, Church of AI, Farewell Atreyu
Let us all hold hands and gather in a circle as offer up a sacrifice to AI – but before we do, please turn your attention to The Drop, where everything is real and nothing is plagiarized, as evidenced by our conversations on shoes bought on the dark web, trying to figure out Mastercard naming strategies, and the real life questions that come with acquiring a pet dog. Plus, you'll get some authentic shoe talk…
Jun 9, 2025 365 | Brendan Dunne, Complex
Thomas traveled up the Spotify Studio in NYC where he sat down with Brendan Dunne from Complex. They chat about running culture, the crossover between performance and lifestyle shoes and dive into Brendan’s personal running. Follow Brendan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brendandunne/?hl=en Read his stories on Complex: https://www.complex.com/author/brendan-dunne
Jun 6, 2025 364 | Mizuno Neo Vista 2, Causing Car Accidents, Paris Goes Smoke Free, Flapjack Fridays
We've returned from our separate corners of the country and assemble to recap our individual weeks, including time spent in Colorado, Thomas's journey to the Spotify studios in NYC, and Meg's Minnesota sojourn. Plus, we talk about the Mount to Coast T1 and the very good update in the Mizuno Neo Vista 2. Shop The Meg High Pony Hat ➡ https://shop.believeintherun.com/products/the-meg-fractel-x-believe-edition Shop the…
Jun 2, 2025 363 | Terence Gerchberg, Back On My Feet
If you're listening to this episode, you know that running changes lives. If it's changed anyone's life, it's certainly done so for Terence Gerchberg, who used running to help dig him out of a deep pit of gambling addiction. Eventually, it brought him to where he is today as CEO of Back On My Feet, an organization that works with people experiencing homelessness or addiction, empowering them to…
May 30, 2025 362 | Skechers Is Back With the Aero Spark, Losing Keys on Long Runs, Rolling Dice for GRIT Miles
Fresh off Memorial Day weekend and all of its misadventures, we accept the impossible mission of talking about running during a running podcast. But first – Summer GRIT is almost sold out, so get in if you still can. We also recap our past week of running, which included lost keys and trail runs in the Mount to Coast T1. Eventually, we talk about the Skechers Aero Spark, a really great trainer coming in at a $130…
May 26, 2025 361 | Zach Litoff, Artist and Designer
Thomas chats with Zach Litoff, a San Francisco based artist and designer with a love of athletics who as done work for clients like Hoka, Nike, Endorphins Running, and more. Follow Zach on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/litoffstudios
May 23, 2025 360 | New Balance Rebel v5, Summer GRIT, Tornado Alley, Basketball Shoes
We know everyone was concerned, but yes, we did in fact live through the 2025 Baltimore Tornado (though sadly many of the trees in our favorite little park did not). In other news, Summer GRIT registration opens on Monday at 9 a.m. ET! You know the drill, so make sure you get in before it sells out. We also try and figure out how a brand new pair of Jordans are the same price as an entry level running shoe.…
May 19, 2025 359 | Taesun Kim, Puma Footwear Designer
Thomas sits town with Taesun Kim, footwear designer at Puma, to chat all about running shoes and his background.
May 16, 2025 358 | Brooks Ghost 17 & Ghost Max 3, Princess Diana Beannie Babies, Turnstile Hometown Gig
Baltimore is on the rebound and we're doing our best to keep the ball bouncing. Speaking of bouncing, we pinball around from organ donation to Skechers stock, to Meg's very desirable Beanie Babies collection. We also talk about the Brooks Ghost Max 3 and Brooks Ghost 17, since this is a shoe review channel, after all. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LA SPORTIVA Introducing the Prodigio Pro Running Shoe from La…
May 12, 2025 357 | Bimma Williams, The Voice of Collabs
Bimma Williams is a Collab Marketing Educator recognized by HYPEBEAST as The Voice of Collabs. With over a decade of experience, he has helped brands like Nike, Yeezy, adidas, and Saucony generate $1.5 billion+ in revenue through strategic collaborations. His insights have been featured in Forbes, Complex, Business Insider, HYPEBEAST, UPROXX, and VIBE. His viral Instagram series, Collab Lab, has reached 15 million…
May 9, 2025 356 | Brooks Hyperion Max 3, Stolen Saucony Shoes, Thoughts on Adidas Adios Pro Evo 2
Back to Baltimore, which means more running and more package thieves coming after the summer 2025 Saucony collection. We recap our saga of tracking down shoes, while running in some sizzling heaters for the summer, including the Brooks Hyperion Max 3, Nike Streakfly 2, and Adidas Adios Pro Evo 2. Karl also wraps up his London experience. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS LA SPORTIVA Introducing the Prodigio Pro running shoe…
May 5, 2025 355 | Henry Abbott, Author & Former ESPN Journalist
Robbe chats with Henry Abbott, basketball expert and former ESPN journalist, about his new book "Ballistic: The New Science of Injury-Free Athletic Performance," which explores groundbreaking new approaches to athletic training, injury prevention, and enhancing performance using “ballistic” movements. The book reveals a surprising takeaway: The explosive moves and ground impacts we often avoid in everyday workouts…
May 2, 2025 354 | London Marathon Recap
Spring marathon season comes to a close, as Thomas and Meaghan run the London Marathon and barely make it back across the Atlantic alive as you'll see in this episode. It's been a real limp to the finish, but we're back and we're ready to relax ...oh wait, Meg heads out on the Move Her Mind tour with ASICS next week and Summer GRIT registration is just around the corner (Memorial Day). Anyway, buckle up and strap…
Apr 28, 2025 353 | Toby Tanser, Shoe4Africa Founder
Thomas met Toby Tanser while on his recent trip to Kenya and immediately knew he had to have him on the podcast. Shoe4Africa originated 30 years ago from Toby's vision of harnessing the power of sports to create positive change for African children. Initially focused on collecting and distributing athletic shoes to aspiring young runners in Kenya their efforts expanded to address broader issues, including…
Apr 25, 2025 352 | Boston Marathon Recap (and Meg's Visit to the ER)
We've returned from the Super Bowl of running – the 129th Boston Marathon – but first, we made a couple detours to the emergency room and the Cheesecake Factory. for a dose of pain pills and fine dining, respectively. Then it was a slew of events, including an incredible opening night with Adidas, running the B.A.A. 5K, a fun and festive marathon track relay with New Balance, the always epic shakeout with…
Apr 21, 2025 351 | Live at the Adidas Running Studio in Boston
We sat down with Charlotte and Ben from the Adidas team while in Boston for marathon weekend to chat all about the new Boston 13. We had a few audio issues but we hope you enjoy this fun chat!
Apr 18, 2025 350 | Puma Fast-R 3, Robbe Returns From Spain & Meg Goes Viral in the Worst Way
A few days out from Boston and one week out from London, so of course the taper crazies are coming on strong, as well as a well-timed viral infection. Meg lays low while Thomas and Robbe take the reins in recounting a trip abroad, the comeback of the receding hairline (thanks White Lotus), the joys of driving a manual car, and more. We also cover the Puma Fast-R 3, the first shoe since the Nike Vaporfly to show…
Apr 14, 2025 349 | Dr. Desmond Wilson, Chief Medical Officer for Eternal
We sit down with Dr. Desmond Wilson, Eternal's Chief Medical Officer. He's a doctor, avid trail runner and talks to us about aging as an athlete. Eternal is new healthcare service tailored to performance for athletes, which just launched in San Francisco and New York. Eternal provides a proactive, science-backed approach to help athletes better understand their changing bodies, optimize peak performance, and…
Apr 11, 2025 348 | Kenya Trip with Kiprun, Move Her Mind Event Series, Cherry Blossom 10 Miler
The boys are back in town, except now Robbe has ventured off to Spain. But that's okay, as Karl joins Thomas and Meg in front of the camera this week to recap their adventure in Kenya with Kiprun to unveil their new race shoe, the KD900X LAB - a 5K/10K racer which seems pretty promising. Plus, Meg recaps her time in D.C. for the start of the Asics Move Her Mind Event Series as well as racing the Cherry Blossom 10…
Apr 7, 2025 347 | Erin Azar aka Mrs. Space Cadet
We got Erin Azar back on the show, even though she’s officially too cool for us. This time, she’s talking casual convos with NFL players, her marathon training for London (using the Galloway method), and her very chill philosophy on doing less. Erin is down-to-earth and effortlessly funny and we hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did.
Apr 4, 2025 346 | Nike Vaporfly 4, Pedal Pubs, Real Life Unicorns, Carbon Plated Shoe Talk
Thomas and Karl are off galavanting in Kenya, so we recorded this on a Friday, which is always questionable. We cover the usual nonsense, talk about the Nike Vaporfly, and petition some brand, somewhere, to take us up on our offer to have a real life unicorn in Boston. Robbe also gives us his review of the King of Moab, a trail running documentary that– spoiler alert– is pretty great. There’s also a lot of shoe…

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